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[goldie]

What model you riding hammy? The cubes are cheap even for a brand new one for the spec you get as you said earlier in the thread

[HammyUK]

AMS Race - in black of course

[goldie]

Yeah thats nice but you would be faster on it if it was green  what sort of weight is that?

[HammyUK]

[cough] BRUNTERS....[/cough]...

12.3kgs without pedals

[Andy J]

[cough] BRUNTERS....[/cough]...

12.3kgs without pedals

bloody hell Hammy, that was a few years ago........... is that the bikes weight or yours ?   

[HammyUK]

Bikes - I'm 12.4 

[Andy J]

this is what you want, proper suspension etc

yeti 575
Hope M4 4 pot brakes, braided lines, hope 203mm floating rotors
Fox 36 - 160mm forks TF push tuned
Chris King headset
XT 30 speed chainset
DTswiss 5.1D rims, 36 spoke, Hope pro II hubs
Hope stem
Raceface carbon post (dropper to follow soon)
maxxis Advantage tyres, these are really good all rounders
.... the spending never ends !!!

[goldie]

Yeah thats nice  just had a look at them its worth more than my zx10r!!!

[Andy J]

[goldie]

right ive got it down to three so what do you think?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Orange-Five-Mountain-Bike-2010-18-5-frame-/160958069948?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item2579d93cbc
old faithfull orange five?

http://www.leisurelakesbikes.com/p/10834/cube-ams-110-race-full-suspension-mountain-bike-2013
same as what hammy has 

http://www.leisurelakesbikes.com/p/6646/cube-ams-110-pro-full-suspension-mountain-bike-2012-sale
bloody cheap i think for what you get but is the spec any good?

so there the 3 all advice or criticism will be greatly appreciated 

[Andy J]

ok,

a 5 all the way but not that one as those forks shouldnt be QR and look very old

Cube, nah quite expensive and an XC race so no fast downhill really

Cube again........nah

[Andy J]

[Andy J]

a better 5
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/orange-pro-5-mountain-bike-/181067613248?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item2a28788440

[Andy J]

Canyon Nerve

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Canyon-nerve-xc-8-/170977724446?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item27cf11081e

[goldie]

i checked the canyons out last night and what can i say nearly everyone is raving about them!
the spec is amazing for the money i would go for the nerve al 7 or 8 i cant see much difference between them really apart from the 8 weights just shy of 12kg! im thinking now screw everything else and get a canyon 
the two to choose from
http://www.canyon.com/_en/mountainbikes/bike.html?b=3028

http://www.canyon.com/_en/mountainbikes/bike.html?b=3026