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Author Topic: confused about my breaking marker (fast road)  (Read 6233 times)

zx10rshadow

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confused about my breaking marker (fast road)
« on: May 04, 2010, 07:21:16 PM »

i've set myself up for a RH bend...speed, road position & bike settled

Q. is my primary visual the imaginary breaking marker - & then tip in/look through the turn ONLY when i've reached that.

Q2. if view through bend is obscured by traffic; do i just back off?

ta
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Re: confused about my breaking marker (fast road)
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2010, 07:33:55 PM »

girls definately shouldn't ride bikes if thats the kinda thing you're supposed to be thinkin about lol

me - oh corner, better brake a bit, ooo i can see exit - wind it on and off we go again lol
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Re: confused about my breaking marker (fast road)
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2010, 08:06:42 PM »

girls definately shouldn't ride bikes if thats the kinda thing you're supposed to be thinkin about lol

me - oh corner, better brake a bit, ooo i can see exit - wind it on and off we go again lol

Nope that's exactly how it's done Lisa  :icon_thumleft:
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Re: confused about my breaking marker (fast road)
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2010, 08:23:15 PM »

i've set myself up for a RH bend...speed, road position & bike settled

Q. is my primary visual the imaginary breaking marker - & then tip in/look through the turn ONLY when i've reached that.

Q2. if view through bend is obscured by traffic; do i just back off?

ta

well to put it through some common sense,theres no point looking through the bend until you hit your braking marker,how else will you know your at it  :?:

as for Q2. :icon_scratch:  your not serious.


seriously,if your trying this hard on the road,get yourself on track,you'll live longer.
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Re: confused about my breaking marker (fast road)
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2010, 08:47:49 PM »

Is this a wind up shadow you have got to be having a laugh here, but if your not just ly it down mate you will get round [rofl]
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Re: confused about my breaking marker (fast road)
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2010, 09:37:33 PM »

 :iamwithstupid:  [rofl]  [clap]
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Re: confused about my breaking marker (fast road)
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2010, 10:26:06 PM »

May the 4th be with you.
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Re: confused about my breaking marker (fast road)
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2010, 10:35:48 PM »

Grab & read a copy of Roadcraft......

It will answer all your questions and then some  :headbang:

If your still having trouble and you can travel to the Midlands, I'll go on a ride with you and see what your trying to do and give you some advice  :headbang:

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Re: confused about my breaking marker (fast road)
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2010, 06:33:08 AM »

Braking marker on the road???
You have got to be kidding!

Road riding has absolutely nothing to do with how its done on the track.
The conditions on road are constantly changing and need constant re-assessment.
But, to put it simply, your point of vision should always be as far forward as the conditions allow.
The idea is you see any potential hazards at the earliest possible moment allowing you to be proactive rather then reactive.

And for Gods sake dont ride thinking "Hmm, Im going to brake there"  Coz its all gonna end in tears.
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Re: confused about my breaking marker (fast road)
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2010, 07:53:07 AM »

 :iamwithstupid: top advice from somebody who is costantly on the road and roads that are 100% better than english roads  :icon_thumright:
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zx10rshadow

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Re: confused about my breaking marker (fast road)
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2010, 09:54:13 AM »

just trying to take a more clinical approach to my road riding (i've read 'The Pace', Roadcraft & Twist of the wrist)

out the other day from hampshire/loomies cafe --> Petersfield and got my line a bit skewed through a long RH sweeper because i was looking straight through the corner too early; using a b. marker may have helped?

guess more trackdays for this stuff  :-S
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Re: confused about my breaking marker (fast road)
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2010, 10:07:50 AM »

How long have you been riding on the road for? I don't need to think about anything like this, I see the corner and get around it.
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Re: confused about my breaking marker (fast road)
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2010, 10:41:07 AM »

4+ yrs

all the sports i've done have benefited from a technical approach...why not sportsbike riding?

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Re: confused about my breaking marker (fast road)
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2010, 10:46:56 AM »

4+ yrs

all the sports i've done have benefited from a technical approach...why not sportsbike riding?



Hmmm You've got to feel the force luke   :icon_thumleft:
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Re: confused about my breaking marker (fast road)
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2010, 10:55:44 AM »

Road riding has absolutely nothing to do with how its done on the track.
The conditions on road are constantly changing and need constant re-assessment.
But, to put it simply, your point of vision should always be as far forward as the conditions allow.
The idea is you see any potential hazards at the earliest possible moment allowing you to be proactive rather then reactive.

Hmmmmmmmm !!  :icon_scratch:

So braking, poitioning, being stable, selecting the correct gear and looking ahead, is not something you bring to a track then!!!

I recall distinctly that the road conditions around the ring can change from dry to wet in a couple of bends, this also counts for other tracks and roads, so constantly changing conditions eh!!!  :shock:


I think ZX10Rshadow has basically just asked the right questions in the wrong manner.
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