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Author Topic: Onboard Bike Cam  (Read 2978 times)

Fat Tony

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Onboard Bike Cam
« on: July 26, 2008, 11:35:35 AM »

Because I'm a tart and a show off, I'd like to install a decent camera on the front of the bike, to record myself doing stupid and irresponsible things.

I've looked at a few, and this sort of thing looks to be the fave choice -->

http://www.bikecameras.com/1-camera-system.php

Anyone any experience in this type of thing ?

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Re: Onboard Bike Cam
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2008, 12:10:17 PM »

Because I'm a tart and a show off, I'd like to install a decent camera on the front of the bike, to record myself doing stupid and irresponsible things.

I've looked at a few, and this sort of thing looks to be the fave choice -->

http://www.bikecameras.com/1-camera-system.php

Anyone any experience in this type of thing ?


The only thing i would comment on it is not to get the one with the connection to the dv video camera.  The reason i say this is that any shaking at all makes it very difficult to compress the video to a reasonable manner (importing a mini dv tape with full quality takes about 13gb) then when u try to compress it you get a horrible picture, best getting one with the recording to compressed digital format streight off (dv is digital just not compressed)
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Re: Onboard Bike Cam
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2008, 12:25:01 PM »

Have you had a look at dogcam products,i have the 480 setup with a cam coder to record to.
Was going to get the media recorder.
There is also rf concepts which do the same thing.
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Re: Onboard Bike Cam
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2008, 01:09:53 PM »

Nice one - cheers both
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Re: Onboard Bike Cam
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2008, 10:01:12 PM »

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Re: Onboard Bike Cam
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2008, 06:59:02 AM »

Dogcam 510. ACE!
Ive used dome foam padding around the mini dv cam and Ive had no probs.
Dogcam give good service and the product is top drawer.
Give em a call and tell em "Wheeltrax" sent ya!
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Re: Onboard Bike Cam
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2008, 12:51:24 PM »

you've missunderstood what i ment by shaking, i wasnt talking bout the camera shaking or being damaged etc, i was talking about the picture, obvioulsy the more you move around the more shakey it will be and also the background changes much more often which is all bad for video compression. 

Now if you take a whole 60 min tape on your camera and try to transfer it to your computer with a firewire cable(minidv connector) it will take up approx 13gb of space(in full quality), now if you want to shrink that using div-x or similar codec for archiving you get pixel blocking because there are too many changes in the video from frame to frame for encoding to work correctly.  Therefore you are left with unfeasibly large videos or really crap quality ones that you wouldnt want to put on youtube anyway.

Now if your compression is part of the device you do not have this issue hence the advantage of the sd recorders and you will have reasonable sized files.

If however you only want to play from the dv camera streight to a tv or are happy buying massive hard drives and just showing the videos to people at your home then go for the dv route otherwise stick with sd recorder(or hd doesnt really matter)
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Re: Onboard Bike Cam
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2008, 07:13:27 PM »

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Fat Tony

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Re: Onboard Bike Cam
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2008, 08:21:33 PM »

OK thanks all - I'll upload the films when they come

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Re: Onboard Bike Cam
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2008, 09:19:16 PM »

try www.4kam.com

i bought the action ready package
xllnt results
filmed loads of laps at the 'ring' last year
plus had a recent low side which then flipped over in the gravel,hit the bike quite hard
recorder was stored under seat cowl so didn't get damaged at all :icon_thumright:
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Re: Onboard Bike Cam
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2008, 01:25:53 PM »

been looking at those m8,you got any footage to look at?  :icon_thumleft:
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Fat Tony

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Re: Onboard Bike Cam
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2008, 09:53:17 AM »

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Re: Onboard Bike Cam
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2008, 10:19:42 AM »

yea i looked at that on the website,but you never really know do you,thats why i wanted to see someone elses  :icon_thumleft:

not that i'm an untrusting type of guy  [rofl]
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Re: Onboard Bike Cam
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2008, 12:04:42 PM »

Rotax uses an atc camera which he's mounted on his tank, he's done a couple of mods one of which is making the mic remote (it's tucked under his seat and cushioned in foam to help reduce noise)

The picture quality is actually pretty good (well until it's loaded on youtube and then youtube compresses it to buggery  :roll: )

Some footage from Saturday is posted up already...

http://www.zx10r.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,8850.0.html

The ATC camera.....

http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/645008/art/oregon/outdoor-atc-2k-digital-ca.html

Just another option  :icon_thumleft:
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Re: Onboard Bike Cam
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2008, 07:26:32 PM »

The archos doesn't work on the bike because of the skipping on the hard drive pickup. You need solid state - the atc and others have a problem with the frame rate hence the grainy picture, etc. I use the PVR 800 from Dogacm it has a higher frame rate than the Archos and equal to most DV cameras.
When you stop you just transfer the footage over to hard drive then switch back to SD. 4hrs at dvd quality.
The footage on the Germany thread is from my setup
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