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Author Topic: power comander setup  (Read 3718 times)

zx6errr

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power comander setup
« on: January 21, 2008, 01:17:11 PM »

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Re: power comander setup
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2008, 01:21:55 PM »

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Re: power comander setup
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2008, 01:32:41 PM »

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Re: power comander setup
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2008, 01:46:52 PM »

Always get a second opinion mate  :pottytrain2: You've been spanked.
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Re: power comander setup
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2008, 01:53:34 PM »

Hey mate,

Sometimes the point of being mapped is not about being able to get more BHP out of it, or improve torque. But to simply get the bike running smoothly with the add ons that you have purchased.  Most bikes are bought with Off the Shelf fuel maps in the ECU and so the bike does its own intelligent fuelling. However as we all know one bike can be very different to another, even though they may be identical. 

I have both a ZX6RR and 2006 ZX10 and both have been mapped and think it was well worth while.  My mods on my 10r were quiet dramatic (cans, air filter, gipro with atre, decat and pcIII) so it was worth the money.  Steve at Motrac spent hours just trying to get the fuelling sorted in low revs.  He said thats a common trait with Kawasakis, that the fuel map is pants.

Often a remap to the average rider, with limited mods, won't seem that different but if you were to compare the graphs on the dyno before and after you will see differences. it just whether or not these translate to you in the seat.

If you think you've been ripped off, then go and speak to the guy again or go elsewhere and get a second opinion.  However you likely to have to pay for any dyno work, and then its up to you to try and get the money back of the other guy.

The Dyno equipment can also make a difference on output so again, going elsewhere may not prove conclusive.
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Re: power comander setup
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2008, 02:24:15 PM »

 :iamwithstupid: what bunny said  :icon_thumright:

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Re: power comander setup
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2008, 02:46:29 PM »

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Re: power comander setup
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2008, 03:13:37 PM »

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Re: power comander setup
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2008, 03:20:17 PM »

next time just go down a tooth on front sprocket . you feel it then.
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Re: power comander setup
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2008, 03:33:58 PM »

Will that not just confuse the speedometer altering the gear ratio.       Remebering a bit more what was said about the fuel pump is that it is now enabled in the power comander  and comes on at a moderate opening of the throttle but as you say it comes on when you turn the key so i aint sure.   The place i took it to was dynopro racing they are just a race team with a dyno and he said he was doing it me for a bargain more cause he enjoys messing. 
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Re: power comander setup
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2008, 03:49:33 PM »

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Re: power comander setup
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2008, 04:16:24 PM »

You could fit a speedo healer to compensate for the gearing.

I had my ZX10R re-mapped at Motrac, again he spent hours on the fuelling and the final 'curve' is still a bit sawtooth, but it runs a whole lot better.  I don't know a lot about maps, but if Steve thinks it's best to start from base, rather than downloading one he did previously and amending it, then I'd suggest that maps are more individual to the bike than a lot of people would have you believe.
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Re: power comander setup
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2008, 05:58:32 PM »

I'd suggest that maps are more individual to the bike than a lot of people would have you believe.

absolutly correct mate, the maps you can download are something the companies have put together but as stated it wont be the best or they would charge you for it

105 sounds a good gain mate and as you say its to crappy on the roads to find out how it really feels, as for the pump im not to sure to be fair, the pump is designed to pump the fuel to the fuel rail and then the pressure regulator on the rail will alter the pressure as required so as for his comment i dont know

Runcorn you say dude, where you at then mate?
« Last Edit: January 21, 2008, 06:01:56 PM by Chrisblack10r »
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Re: power comander setup
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2008, 06:08:21 PM »

hi im near chester,  as i have been off work today i have been mooching around and found out on another forum that race carbs for motorcycles squirt a jet of fuel into the engine when the throttle is whacked open i am now thinking this is some kind of system he was getting at nothing to do with the mechanical pump on the bike at all. I would of thought though that would just cock the whole map up. Can a power comander do this?
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Re: power comander setup
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2008, 06:14:18 PM »

your bike is electronic fuel injection so doesnt have carbs or fuel jets as you describe, when you open the throttle and the air enters the inlet manifold the engine ecu calculates the amount of fuel required to make the air/fuel ratio correct

the power commander lets the tuner override the ecu and allow them to tune the injector duration inside the ecu to better suit the air mass

**EDIT** meant to say aswell that the fuel pump is electronic too and is bolted to the bottom of the tank
« Last Edit: January 21, 2008, 06:20:40 PM by Chrisblack10r »
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