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Re: Slicks
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2007, 10:10:46 PM »

I think im going to run slicks next year to Kev. Dunlops are supposed to be very good but like you said there are alot of compounds

Dunlop compounds
950 - soft
709 - softish
587 - med soft
758 - medium /med soft
237 - medium/ med soft long life tyre as 758
640 - med-hard
566 - hard
902 - hard
732 - hard

then tri compounds with differing edge to center tread compound

3166 - soft edge med middle
3136 - soft/med middle with medium edge
3167 - med middle with med hard edge
3127 - med hard middle with hard edge
3138 - med hard hard edge


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Apparently they last 4 trackdays easy though



So what would you use Jon 709 front 758 rear  :icon_scratch: or would you use a differant manufacture
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Re: Slicks
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2007, 07:05:38 PM »

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Re: Slicks
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2007, 07:10:21 PM »

there is some real tits about....  [wall]
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Re: Slicks
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2007, 08:17:04 PM »

Kev, i know less than you about slicks mate and dont mind admiting it. I shamelesly stole the Dunlop info off a guys thread on Visordown. He knows his shit as he raced on dunlop slicks. Try contacting him and see what he says,he says he still has a few contacts too so might be able to get a deal.

This is the link to the thread on there, his name is Fossy, he used to race a very high spec GSXR 1000.

http://www.visordown.com/forums/showthread.php?t=367949

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Re: Slicks
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2007, 08:47:08 PM »

Cheers buddy will let you know how i get on  :icon_thumright:
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Re: Slicks
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2007, 09:54:37 PM »

i gopher  try a little more rebound damping  with the tearing  but depends where tearin , if middle  should be warm so bouncing , if  side maty be cold  tearing  but they  will hook  i will only get a day from a rear ,   
if you are in the know and can speak to dunlop direct  in brum  thay will send you the tyers for tracks/ time of year
most people use and i have   used 758 front and 3166 rear



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Re: Slicks
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2007, 10:02:07 PM »

i gopher  try a little more rebound damping  with the tearing  but depends where tearin , if middle  should be warm so bouncing , if  side maty be cold  tearing  but they  will hook  i will only get a day from a rear ,   
if you are in the know and can speak to dunlop direct  in brum  thay will send you the tyers for tracks/ time of year
most people use and i have   used 758 front and 3166 rear





How much do they go for direct from Dunlop Tim? I just recently found out i know a guy who's mates with one of the top men at Dunlop motorsport department, so might be able to get a contact.
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Re: Slicks
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2007, 10:15:36 PM »

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Re: Slicks
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2007, 10:18:54 PM »

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Re: Slicks
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2007, 10:22:04 PM »

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Re: Slicks
« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2007, 10:25:22 PM »

I just googled and found this guy from Dunlop saying you can get them from the Motorsport department anyway :dontknow:

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/community/Forums/Categories/Topic/?topic-id=316729
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Re: Slicks
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2007, 10:38:15 PM »

cheers  just put that in phone ,

he talking  trackday slicks  things you want for racing are ntec's  i will ring and see ,   will be full wet for me tomorow at donny !!!
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Re: Slicks
« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2007, 10:55:14 PM »

cheers  just put that in phone ,

he talking  trackday slicks  things you want for racing are ntec's  i will ring and see ,   will be full wet for me tomorow at donny !!!

Tim this is what he says about the race slicks.

But you could call 0121 306 6000 an ask to talk to our Motorsport division; they make slicks in this size for 250GP bikes. But you need to bear in mind that these are full-on race tyres that will require tyre warmers and good machine set up to get the best from them.
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Re: Slicks
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2007, 10:56:39 PM »

cheers  just put that in phone ,

he talking  trackday slicks  things you want for racing are ntec's  i will ring and see ,   will be full wet for me tomorow at donny !!!

Good luck at Donny, its proper grippy in the wet anyway as im sure you know. Did you get the 10R mapped in?
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Re: Slicks
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2007, 04:47:56 PM »

G, Jon and whoever else is interested this is what Fossy says on slicks.....

Hi kev, dont worry to much on the appearance of your rear tyres, so long as they are even and not chunked at all, or deep valleys forming 1" from the edge. If you are experiencing any chunking/scaring/etc, you rear shock is either too hard or compression is too stiff/slow. Make sure you run them at no more than 30psi back/front.
I always used dunlop slicks as they are the best. K108 rears and K106 fronts or R420's as they are more common. Yes they last longer and yes you will keep them up to temparature no problem, but do require warming with decent equipment for at least 1 hour prior to riding to heat the core cavity and rim. I have used dunlops at 26-29psi rear and 29psi front without problems.
For cartegena, id use a 758 front with a 640 rear or 3127 med/hard or 3128 medhard/ hard if tri compound, as its really rough surface there + hot.
Id need 4 rears and 2 fronts for spain for 4 days, but you probably dont ride as fast (no dis-respect) so maybe get away with 2-3 rears and 1-2 fronts.
For uk circuits, id always use a 3166 tri rear or 758-640 depending on temp, and a 950 front when cool and 758 when hot day/rough surface.
I have also used supersoft qualifiers on hot rough tracks and found they also hold up really well if your suspension is set right. Most people say the tyres are shredding up when they ride quick on trackdays, but more often than not, its the fact they have Ohlins all over their bikes, but its set up way wrong and normally far to hard on compressions and spring rate. get your suspension setup foryou by a repuitable tuner/trackside technician.

                          Looks like dunlop are the way to go.  By the way i have checked out a few of Fossy's posts and he seems like a really sound bloke, No bullshit (sounds fookin quick to) So i am taking this as sound advice but any more input wold be gratefully received (Tim  :icon_thumright:) Oh how did it go at donny buddy ?
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