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[Wayno]

Right, There is plenty of topics on various forums referring to the correct method of breaking in a new bike.
The manual, says no more than 4000rpm for 500 miles and then 6000rpm for up to 1000 miles.

The dealership didn't advise me of this, instead chose to talk me about scrubbing in the new BT016's.

The bike has done a full 70 miles now, so should I be looking at an oil & filter change?? and is the book the right way or is that old school stuff as it could have been printed years ago??

Keeping the bike to 4k is harder than it seems and it sound bloody awful as the engine is hardly kicking over..

Wayne

[Wheeltrax]

Sticking rigidly to the prescribed revs isnt whats best for an engine.
On acceleration you can exceed these limits (dont take the piss here tho) but at constant speeds make sure youre within the manufacturers recommendations.
Remember its not just the engine youre breaking in but the whole drivetrain. Too careful and the bike will still be very tight even after the running in period.
Dont be too anal about the running in process. Be sensible but revving to 1k (or even 2k) over the book spec isnt going to harm the bike one jot 

[EXJ10R]

Sticking rigidly to the prescribed revs isnt whats best for an engine.
On acceleration you can exceed these limits (dont take the piss here tho) but at constant speeds make sure youre within the manufacturers recommendations.
Remember its not just the engine youre breaking in but the whole drivetrain. Too careful and the bike will still be very tight even after the running in period.
Dont be too anal about the running in process. Be sensible but revving to 1k (or even 2k) over the book spec isnt going to harm the bike one jot 

 

Run my aprilia in pretty much to the book for the 1st 50 miles then around 150 mile took it 1-3k revs above and basically just rode it, not mental but just when it felt 'tight' waited another 50-100 miles then increased it.
After 1st service (700 miles) took it to a trackday and it behaved perfectly.

[GRNINJA]

Right I posted this a while ago in reply to the same thing and its controversial but i did this to my New 05 636 and gave great power

my post from this thread

http://www.zx10r.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2226.msg31823.html#msg31823

there is only 2 ways of running in a bike......... one to the book i.e keeping it at a certains revs for so many mile etc

the other way is sensible for the first 100 miles ish.... then on runs wait till the engine is at temprature and the ride it as you normally would.....

yes the latter will take off a few years off the life but you do see better performance from it.....

it isn't bollox about new engines being more robust otherwise we would all be breaking down...... You don't see racer's getting out for the first 1000 miles at low revs on there new engines

its all done on the dyno being heated and run at different increments but they will still give it the beans..... I know what your gonna say race engines don't have a long shelf life but its not to say that if you run an engine in like the race engine that they wouldn't last almost as long.....

read this http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm 

[Jak]

Right, There is plenty of topics on various forums referring to the correct method of breaking in a new bike.
The manual, says no more than 4000rpm for 500 miles and then 6000rpm for up to 1000 miles.

The dealership didn't advise me of this, instead chose to talk me about scrubbing in the new BT016's.

The bike has done a full 70 miles now, so should I be looking at an oil & filter change?? and is the book the right way or is that old school stuff as it could have been printed years ago??

Keeping the bike to 4k is harder than it seems and it sound bloody awful as the engine is hardly kicking over..

Wayne

Much discussed and very controversial topic, but I basically followed this...
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

Always remembering to warm up the motor fully before using the revs

Changed the oil and filter at 100miles and then at 600miles.

Did this with my R6, 46K miles and no problems. Repeated it with my gen3 which makes good power, burns no oil and returns 48mpg

Some say it makes no difference as engines are already run in at the factory, but as already said, its not just the engine that needs breaking in and you will want to take it easy until you're used to the new bike

Ride safe 

[GRNINJA]

Jak I beat ya to it 

 

[Jak]

at 70 miles we both might be too late 

[rickyzx10r]

Sticking rigidly to the prescribed revs isnt whats best for an engine.
On acceleration you can exceed these limits (dont take the piss here tho) but at constant speeds make sure youre within the manufacturers recommendations.
Remember its not just the engine youre breaking in but the whole drivetrain. Too careful and the bike will still be very tight even after the running in period.
Dont be too anal about the running in process. Be sensible but revving to 1k (or even 2k) over the book spec isnt going to harm the bike one jot 

as far as 1st oil change goes i just assume K.H.I knows best..

there is more to run in than just pistons...and its not as if by running your bike in near enough to manufactures recommendation thats its gonna be slow.. it'll still be a missile !!!..a thousand or 2 revs here and there will make no difference so there's no need to be constantly  watching the rev counter like its a big pair of tits lolol...ride briskly and it'll be fine 

[fido]

When I bought my '05 10R I was told not to stick rigidly to the mnufacturers recommendations but to up the revs by 1000 every 100 miles and every now and then 'open her up briefly' then shut off.

 23K on her when I px'ed her and engine was as sweet as ever.

 Have applied the same to all new bikes since and they have all been perfect.

[Jak]

K H I dyno these bikes after assembly before leaving the factory. You can be pretty sure they have been redlined before they hit the dealers 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Aq_tO6_Fs&feature=player_embedded

[Wayno]

Some interesting views. I have been accelerating up to 1000 revs over the recommended level but once into 6th sitting at 4K which is 58mph!
Bike has done 175 miles now, so maybe I should increase it abit more.
It just sounds so tappety and lumpy at low revs like its running poorly but I guess it's hardly ticking over.

Cheers for your views peeps.

[GRNINJA]

Labouring the engine will do more damage than good

[mc101]

Always had new race bikes prepped the same way:

Start it until its hot

Dyno run to mid range - allow to cool to room temp

Repeat with more RPM until the 10th run or thereabouts you bang into the red line

Run in DONE.

Takes a couple of days but always releases good power and not had a single issue in 10 years from any manufacture with this approach (even Aprilia!)

[Wheeltrax]

Labouring the engine will do more damage than good

Dont go into 6th then!

[Chrisblack10r]

Never ran an engine in by the book before, never will

Engines are run in before you've even got to the bike, no manufacturer would let any engine leave the factory without having tested it first

The run in periods are more designed for the rider to get used to the bike before you start to open it up

but if you're ever in doubt, gas it