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[TheBo]

I ride with a dark visor, never had any probs so far (touch wood)  . I saw an old bill car by the road last year and stopped and asked him about this issue. He said on a bright sunny day he sees no problem with wearing a tinted visor but carry a clear one incase conditions change so thats what i do. 

[robbosliding]

The BS rating that makes it road legal is to do with the resilience of its shatter proof rating, have a look at the BS marking present on your clear visor and the absence of it on your dark one. It doesn't say not road legal on your sunglasses does it? I'm not saying the legislation makes sense, what I'm stating is fact. I'm not saying the dark visors aren't as strong but they don't get tested in the same way to warrant BS approval. Speculate all you like, the darkness of the tint is part of the issue but the shatterproof rating is what restricts most of these visors from being road legal.

[HammyUK]

I'm gonna call crap on the BS standard part - my Dainese carries the BS mark on both visors and the tinted one is genuine Dainese as well.
IIRC all the Bob Heath visors are BS stamped too.
Its never been about the BS standard and the ACPO guidelines clearly state that it is the restriction of vision due to the tinting that makes them a "potential" offence. There is no "actual" offence and it is down to the force in question as to how it is enforced.
What ACPO does state is that they do not expect unecessary enforcement where conditions are suitable and safe.

[Jak]

My HJC tinted visor has the same scribe as the clear one "HJC, Model: HJ-09, exceeds VESC-8 (whatever that means ?) Not Warranted Shatterproof  , If Tinted, For Daytime Use Only." The tinted visor is graduated and I presume road legal.

[r1ninja]

Yeah the HJC light tints are legal, that's how they are allowed to sell them with the helmet in the UK

[robbosliding]

[doug_zx10r]

I'm sure sunglasses are illegal on an open-face lid, unless they are BS marked, they become the visor in effect so face the same shatterproof testing that a visor does.

[sock]

the bs mark is old hat the visor has to have an e number on it for the road a light tint visor with e number is ok none of the dark/mirrored visors have this number so are illegal if used ride with a full face helmet and remove the visor that's ok if you ride with a dark one and leave it open that's still illegal because it's there and just to clear up a point about sunglasses they are NOT illegal at any time day or night open or full face the law is an ar8e (ex cbt instuctor)
Keith

[hollywood]

[HammyUK]

It has been as the Eu requirements overide any BS standard now due to PPE as helmets and visors are classed as PPE.
Thats why ACPO set down the guidelines about non-enforcement except during rain/darkness, etc.
Its just that a number of forces "choose" to ignore the guidelines without actually checking the correct standards and specifications surrounding the construction of visors.
The light checker they use on chavs windows can't actually be used on polycarb visors as the device is specifically designed to work on glass and is calibrated for the properties that glass has - one seting for laminated windscreens and another for side glass.
Had a chat with a bud in traffic today over coffee and donuts (  ) about this and they will try for an iridium but other than that they have been told to leave it alone subject to weather conditions and time of day.

[doug_zx10r]

I'm pretty sure sunglasses are classed as goggles when they're worn as the only eye protection, and must meet the same performance standards.

[sock]

 sunglasses are not included because you can't include normal glasses either and that is because if there is no visor fitted then lay do not become the eye protection only the visor or motorcycle goggles have to comply with the law like i said the law is an ar8e

keith

[r1ninja]

law is an ar8e

keith

And often enforced by ar8eholes. A few years a go a mate had his dark visor confiscated by plod. When asked how he was supposed to ride home without a visor, plod went to his car and handed him a pair of scratched up old sunglasses to wear !

[hollywood]

[sock]

'anything sold as eye protection' that is the line that matters, sunglasses are not sold as protection  for motorcycle use so don't fall under the law hth

keith