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[blake7]

I think you are correct mate, I think it just downloads static camera locations to the device and then beeps when you are in the area of a camera.

[FollowMe]

Only prob (as far as I can see) is that inforad doesnt detect mobile speed traps.
I believe (and i stand to be corrected here) it just stores all the static sites and give you a warning as you are approaching them.
Or have I got it completely wrong?

You are correct Kev. You will need a sophisticated system to detect the microwaves from a hand held radar. Most are now illegal.

[Wheeltrax]

Only illegal to use, not to own 

Something like this should detect all-comers I reckon...

Snooper SD715iS Features

    * 5 Band radar detection including the new Ku band - detects ALL radar traps.
    * Specially tuned 1000MHz bandwidths on both X and K frequencies.
    * Undetectable Stealth Technology.
    * 360 degree Radar and Laser detection - 100% protection.
    * Separate audio and visual indicators - for complete information.
    * Mute, Dark and City controls - for optimum control (see below).
    * Range finder LED's - lets you know how far away the trap is.
    * Range -
          o Radar and Laser Guns up to 2 miles
          o Gatso Cameras up to 100 yards
          o MiniGatso up to 600 yards

C'mon guys. Im a techno dunce. Somebody must know more about this stuff than me 

[Wheeltrax]

Just in case any of you fine fellows fancy having an Inforad check this out (best be quick tho)....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/INFORAD-K1-GPS-SPEED-CAMERA-ALERT-WARNING-DETECTOR-/300493145508?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item45f6c985a4

[HammyUK]

Only Gatso statics give of a radar signature.
Truvellos which face forward use piezo sensors in the road.
Iirc - the drums that you have near you are either a type of Gatso or use a laser.
Handhelds are all laser now.
The ONLY one that is effective against laser is the LT450 and is legal as long as you connect up the home part to you garage door.
Other than that it's a detector for radar/gatso types.
The "parking sensor" systems that are laser blockers are just about legal on a car but there is no way you could argue their figment on a bike.

[Wheeltrax]

Ive no real prob with static sites. Having said that a lot of detectors see radar and laser so the fly in the ointment is the truvelo with road sensors.
Reckon I could live with that.
I guess the ideal unit would detect radar/laser and have a database of static sites as well.
Does such a thing exist?
Think Ive seen one or two about but cant remember details.

(not too worried about legality tbh. I will only be using at as an to safety of course  ).

[Wheeltrax]

The ONLY one that is effective against laser is the LT450

Where do you get that info Hammy?
Ive seen quite a few well named brands that claim to detect both radar and laser (Bel/Cobra/Snooper/Whistler etc).

[dazman]

Thought it was only illegal if it JAMED the Recording device??

Didn't i read some where about a court case relating to the use of these device's  ??


This web page tells you that it was legalized           
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_detector  :- 

UK 
Legal to own, but technically illegal to use under the Wireless Telegraphy Act 1949 until 1998, due to legal loophole causing them to be legalized suddenly


And here it say there alright to use , as long as it DON'T jam the signal..
http://www.mmsa.org.uk/guides/car_accessories/radar_detectors.html

[HammyUK]

Nope - the "detection" of frequencies is also illegal.
So knowing which Gatso is emitting and which isn't is illegal. Thats why there was the sudden jump to GPS based ones around 2003/5.
I can tell you for fact from conversations with Traffic buds that you WILL be prosecuted on  "the basis of obstruction and perversion of the course of justice" if you have an active device. Hants have done several in the last year or so as well as seizure of the vehicle, full forensic examination by a vehicle examiner, removal and destruction of any such equipment found and costs associated with the previous - even if there is NO prosecution for the device afterwards and that can include a custodial sentence.
Best combo in the UK is a bloody good updateable GPS with something like the LT450 up front. Just make damn sure you have the "home" section of the system connected because if not then it becomes a "jammer" and your ass will belong to Bubba.

Kev - the LT450 is purely a laser device at the front of a vehicle - nothing more combined with a home receiver that activates your door/light/catflap.
ANY of the dash mounted ones are a waste of time - by the time they detect the laser through the windscreen you've already been hit and measured. You have to have something that registers the "hit", sends a signal in reply as a "query" and then shuts down after not getting the "correct" reply. This is what the LT does, the Snooper is just a jammer, there is a "laser parking distance system" that does similar for "ahem - parking" but is barley legal and there's no way you could legally have it fitted to a bike anyway.
Don't know about germany but here they no longer use hand-held radar because of  "slippage" so anything "active" needs to cover that only - back it up with a gps like the Inforad and off ya go. There is a way to get the Inforad to sound a siren but it means cutting into the loom to pick up on the LED circuit.
There are plenty of sites out there that review these things and one in particular has access to some police "chums" who are more than happy to help "test" the toys.
Gives Pros and Cons and real advice on why or not to use them.
Can't remember the name but the site background is pale yellow if that helps.
http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/
http://www.radardetectorsreviews.co.uk/laser.htm
http://www.speed-detectors.co.uk/catalog/laser-parking-sensors-jammers-c-57.html

[davemfox]

ANY of the dash mounted ones are a waste of time - by the time they detect the laser through the windscreen you've already been hit and measured.

I have to disagree with you on that Hammy; I had a Snooper all singing and dancing detector in my car a couple of years ago and there was a policeman with a laser spotting traffic. I was going at a very silly speed and the Snooper picked this up from about 3/4 mile away and enabled me to get my speed down, and effectively saved me from doing some time

Dave

[Wheeltrax]

If Ive learnt one thing....Its a VERY confusing market 

May just give up and ride within the speed limit....................NOT!

[HammyUK]

That'd be "spatter" then Dave - seriously - the traffic guys in Hants are good mates and I ride out with a lot of them so get a heads up, what does work, etc................
If the guy was targetting you then you'd of been had - period - the laser is just too fast unless you're also using another laser diode to "talk" to it.
Only the "jammers" work and at present only the LT450 kit is 100% legal - just confirmed that with a call to make sure - and ONLY if you have the home kit installed on something legitimate like a garage door.
You'd REALLY be pushing it with a light/catflap.
I have ben "hit" on the bike and watched the operator checking the device as I went past at the "correct" speed - and Iknow my plate is on the national database as a "to be noted" if they cannot get a reading again. Helps to have friends that can check things 

[robbosliding]

Yawning a bit at this debate. Save your money, the threat isn't  being speed gunned and if you get caught this way you probably aren't paying attention anyway so its likely with the limited view from your helmet that a flashing LED near your clocks that you won't see it in time, if at all.
Lets be right, if you speed in the wrong place, act like a tit on camera, odds are eventually you will get done.
The biggest and most likely threat is being "a little over the limit", unobservant and rolling past an unmarked car and getting filmed doing so. Or passing a parked up car and getting a follow on. You cannot beat time over distance (Vascar) so stop kidding yourself trying to be James Bond with gadgets.
If your riding style cannot be evidenced in speed you can simply be stuck on for due care. Spend your money on some track days and stop worrying about your mirrors. You know when and where you can play "safely", this is a pointless thread.

[HammyUK]

Can I suggest you go back to the beginning and read again.
You may then realise the OP doesn't live in the UK and as such the thread is far from pointless and your comment is bollocks.
VASCAR is no longer an approved measure and was stated as such under and ACPO review in 2008 due tinits inaccuracies.
The Provida system is now in use for replacing it and uses a take off from the vehicle to measure gps against real speed on a calibrated speedo.
There is nothing about speeding, filming, trackdays, etc and again bringing that up just throws unnecessary crap into the discussion.
No-one is forcing you to read this so if you're yawning feck off and sleep somewhere else and leave this thread for the information the OP has asked for.

[robbosliding]

Hammy, excuse me for mistaking this as a public forum open for all to join in with, and I apologise for missing the fact that you are the moderator.

I know for a fact Vascar is being used today. The majority of serious traffic offence summons or NIP's don't come from static or hand held devices. Imo purchasing devices like this in the belief they will shield you from prosecution is niave and they are infact more likely to attract negative attention when stopped by authorities. Static and handheld devices can indicate interference. Regardless of whether the authorities can prosecute upon the presence of the device (pervert has fallen over an number of times now) interfere with police equipment hasn't but is a minor issue in the greater picture.

Most, as correctly pointed out, devices alarm when its to late. My point is (heaven forbid I am allowed to express it) is that most that fall foul of the law do so by conduct witnessed, video'd or in ridiculous circumstances, posted. Money, albeit down to the individual can be better spent elsewhere, this type of thing is generally bling and creates an attitude of the untouchable which can cause the owner more problems than it solves. When you are stopped and this type of kit is present it doesn't look good.

Only my opinion, should I be allowed to express it of course.