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Author Topic: Random post of the day, "Dog Attack" what if?  (Read 3556 times)

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Re: Random post of the day, "Dog Attack" what if?
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2010, 04:39:41 PM »

Jamma10566 you'll be calling for all 1000cc sportsbikes to be banned next ffs [wall]

Magic1, the old woman in my earlier post said the same, "Jasmines never done that before" So are we going to ban all breeds of dogs :?:

MORE PEOPLE ARE KILLED AND INJURED BY COWS IN 1 YEAR THAN DOGS OF THE LAST 10 YEARS FACT!!!!!!!!
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Re: Random post of the day, "Dog Attack" what if?
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2010, 04:47:10 PM »

ZX-10R GUARDED BY 2x STAFFORDS! DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT PAL!

Whats your reason for keeping staffs then?
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Re: Random post of the day, "Dog Attack" what if?
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2010, 06:26:17 PM »

ok what have i missed  :icon_scratch:

guys calm down its a widely talked about topic and no amount of abuse will ever stop it.
im afraid we just have to hold our opinions to ourselves or take criticisim back.
in case you was wondering  magic i was merley trying to find out why it happened im not defending anyone even though i have a staff too!
my roxy is very loving and i could not see her being nasty but that dosent mean it will never happen! (hopefully it wont)
i worry more about my border terrier cos sometimes he gets a bit grumpy.

my point is my border terrier could prob do just as much damage but does he get a bad name, im not sure, who knows the answers.

my other thought is that once taking all 3 of my dogs an old lady with a small terrier actually kicked roxy and told her to fuck off and i was standing right there!!
needless to say i had a few choice words for her, but hey some people just dont understand!!

the thing is if a dog does attack regardless of breed, etc, there has to be a reason and its nice to get to the bottom of it.

but i will say this my dogs are my life but i would never try to convince anyone else of this because quite frankly its no one else buisness, excactly the way u shut the door on a jehovahs witness as u would never let someone barr your jugement!!


now guys lets talk about summit different................................2011 10r maybe??
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Re: Random post of the day, "Dog Attack" what if?
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2010, 11:13:12 PM »




Hi Scooby you really didn,t have to insult my intelligence with the last statement, i had already gathered from your general response that you were in fact an owner of this breed, what,s with the hostility? :icon_scratch: have you thought it possible you have a rose tinted view on this matter? i wasn,t ill informed or ranting ban the breed, i was there and witnessed the scene thats all. "Blame the owners" you say, well here is the dilemma for you, if you were have asked that owner yesterday "what temperament was his dog?" the answer would have come back "He,s harmless" but  ask him the same question today and his answer will be different, he did seem genuinely shocked himself and by his own admission  said"he,s never done this before". Bit scary i think :shock:


apologies if my sarcasm offended you  :roll:


but lets put it this way,if as you said "took a sthil saw" to my dog,without knowing what had gone on then it wouldn't end very nicely.How you can make a judgement like that without any of the facts is beyond me.

if the dog in question was attacking a child or person,then ok,but lets hope your carefull and dont nik the person or mr claims man will have a quite a few expensive holidays at your expense ;-).


As for a staffie being a dangerous breed,it has already been said in this thread by myself and others,any dog is and can be dangerous in any given situation,it's just a shame that staffies have a bad rap down to the chavvy scrotes that use the dog as status symbol,and also bring up the dog with that mentality and training.who's to blame there,the dog or the owner?

nuff said on the subject now i think from me as it will only go round in circles. :icon_thumleft:




However,i cant leave post unanswered.


What were your motives for choosing a dog that can so easily kill a child or another dog? You say they are protective. Thats fine for you but what of others? ALL dogs can pick up on fear and tension in others and can react aggressively towards it. The fact is that seeing a dangerous dog will cause fear and tension in a lot of people, especially mothers with small children, little old ladies walking spaniels etc. in much the same way as seeing someone walking down the street carrying a gun. Only the gun doesnt have a mind of its own! We dont have the right to carry firearms in the street. What gives you the right to keep a weapon on a lead?


assuming this post is aimed at me?


give me a minute whilst i compose myself from laughing so much at your blinkered (i want to use ill-educated again but thats nowhere near strong enough for such an ignorant post like that) view of dogs.

have you any idea of the characteristics of a staffie? i'll assume no or you wouldn't post such drivvel.

i'll give you a little quote from the Kennel Club


With the human race he is kindness itself. He is descended from a cross between the Bulldog and a terrier, and thus combines the temperaments of the two breeds. Fortunately, his genuine love of children is well known.


in fact your not worth the time to a proper response,but i'll just leave you with this little snipet of information.(ecucation is a wonderful thing)

Here's a look at the various dog breeds that are considered potentially aggressive.

    * Chow Chows are one-person dogs that tend to bite without any warning. They are also a bit ferocious around strangers, and can be quite a tenacious fighter. So make sure to discipline this dog and set right from wrong, immediately.
    * The Papillon is fiercely loyal of their owners - to a fault. They can be quite possessive and standoffish to strangers.
    * Old English Sheepdogs are very protective of their owners so they might be aggressive if anybody tends to be too close to its owners.
    * A Llasa Apso often gets cranky around kids.
    * Rottweilers are extremely protective of their masters.
    * Chihuahuas aren't too fond of kids. They'd rather be with adults than play around with tots.
    * Toy Poodles bite people and other animals out of self defense. Unfortunately, 'playing' according to you may be perceived as a form of 'attack' to them.
    * Dachshunds aren't known for their patience.
    * Jack Russell Terriers are feisty creatures who require early training to prevent long-term biting and digging problems.
    * Giant Schnauzers are very dominant. They often challenge adults, particularly strangers.
    * Cocker Spaniels often suffer from a dangerous genetic disease known as "rage syndrome." This syndrome causes spontaneous violent action against not strangers, but actual family members. Many Spaniels have been put down because of this unwanted behavior. Check with the breeder to ensure your Spaniel is free from this dangerous dog disease.
    * The Pekingese isn't all that tolerant of strangers.
    * Miniature Pinschers usually have aggression issues because they've got this "big dog-little body" mind set going on.

Here's a rundown of breeds that are typically gentle but can't shake off their "bad dog" image.

    * Boxers are pretty good with kids. They are good watchdogs, but will only become aggressive
    * Bulldogs are very playful and gentle.
    * Great Danes, while considerable in size, happen to be kind and affectionate.
    * Mastiffs are especially quiet and docile.
    * German Shepherds are great with kids too. These are courageous, fiercely loyal dogs who, if trained properly, will be extremely gentle to family and guests.
    * Rottweilers are also capable of tenderness and affection. They have a bad rep, but if they trust you, you'll never have to worry.


and there endeth the lesson. [whistle] (although i suspect night classes might be in order)

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Re: Random post of the day, "Dog Attack" what if?
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2010, 08:58:31 AM »

Difficult one, but ultimately the owner is to blame for not securing his dog in the back of the truck.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2010, 09:28:22 AM by r1ninja »
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Re: Random post of the day, "Dog Attack" what if?
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2010, 09:02:45 AM »

« Last Edit: October 27, 2010, 09:29:36 AM by r1ninja »
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Re: Random post of the day, "Dog Attack" what if?
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2010, 09:55:56 AM »

Scooby, getting a bit rude and aggressive now aren't you? Learn that from your dog?
We can all find stuff on the internet to support our own arguments.

The Staffordshire Bull Terrier (informally: Staffie, Stafford, Staffross, Staffy or Staff) is a medium-sized, short-coated, old-time breed of dog, originally bred for dog fighting after bull baiting became illegal.

You dont breed those characteristics out overnight!

Several New South Wales state government reports analysing dog attacks have identified the Staffordshire bull terrier or more broadly 'Staffordshire dogs' as the leading breed of dog responsible for biting humans (ahead of the Australian Cattle Dog, German Shepherd and Jack Russell Terrier) in that state.

Im sure you are a responsible owner but you will also agree that many Staffie owners are not. Put yourself in my shoes, walking down the street with my 2 daughters aged 8 and 5. How do I know if the bloke with the two Staffies is responsible or not? When you have young children you see threats everywhere!

R1 Ninja, i couldnt agree with you more re The Kennel Club.
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Re: Random post of the day, "Dog Attack" what if?
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2010, 10:20:59 AM »

Jamma10566, It's a fresh day and i've realised your an ilinformed wind up merchant :shock: me and my dogs arn't biting  :pottytrain2: (pun intended  [whistle] )
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Re: Random post of the day, "Dog Attack" what if?
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2010, 10:25:03 AM »

We've been tough the dangerous dog thing before, my response then was :-

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How far do they go to 100% guarantee a kid doesn't get attacked or bitten by a dog ? only solution would be to ban all dogs, that would be a shame.

Bikers are licensed, that doesn't stop a kid getting hurt by a zx10r, and I'm sure at some time a kid has been hurt by a bike. If this discussion was on a dog owners forum, about a kid hurt by a biker, I'm sure all the same sort of comments would have been made there, would you agree with some of the above,  if that was applied  to you, as a zx10r owner Huh??  i think not  as that would equally be unfair.

May be the answer is  to muzzle all dogs and keep them on leads when their out and to restrict all bikes to 100 bhp ! although i doubt that would prevent a kid being hurt by a bike !
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Re: Random post of the day, "Dog Attack" what if?
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2010, 10:29:19 AM »

hotdogs, thats the way forward! :glasses9:
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Re: Random post of the day, "Dog Attack" what if?
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2010, 10:36:04 AM »

Jamma10566, It's a fresh day and i've realised your an ilinformed wind up merchant :shock: me and my dogs arn't biting  :pottytrain2: (pun intended  [whistle] )

Ill informed? No, Ive got a border collie myself and lets face it, they've not got the best of reputations either.
Wind up merchant? Hell yeah! I do enjoy a good heated debate now and then! :lol:

Found this 'bout Staffies too just to balance the argument.

RSPCA chief vet Mark Evans said: "Staffies have had a terrible press, but this is not of their own making - in fact they're wonderful dogs. If people think that Staffies have problems, they're looking at the wrong end of the dog lead! When well cared for and properly trained they can make brilliant companions. Our experience suggests that problems occur when bad owners exploit the Staffie's desire to please by training them to show aggression."

Peace?
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Re: Random post of the day, "Dog Attack" what if?
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2010, 10:42:16 AM »

And shouldnt a Yorkshireman have Yorkies guarding his 10?  [rofl]
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Re: Random post of the day, "Dog Attack" what if?
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2010, 10:43:43 AM »

 :iamwithstupid: [rofl] [rofl]
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Re: Random post of the day, "Dog Attack" what if?
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2010, 10:45:54 AM »




RSPCA chief vet Mark Evans said

That's not the same Vet Mark Evans who built an E-type and a Triumph Bonny and a Helicopter and Plane on his "A ....  is born " Discovery Channel shows
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Re: Random post of the day, "Dog Attack" what if?
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2010, 10:50:03 AM »

Yeah, he built himself a pit bull out of 2 Staffies and a pot bellied pigs arse!
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