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Author Topic: knee down understeer  (Read 1368 times)

kwaka jack

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knee down understeer
« on: July 08, 2010, 09:15:41 PM »

as per the title everytime ive been gettin my knee down the bikes been runnin wide cant work it been thinkin a lot bout it as to wot i might be doin wrong but no closer to an answer

any thoughts?
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Re: knee down understeer
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2010, 09:37:50 PM »

You're probably 'hanging' on the inside bar, ie- using the bars to hang onto  the bike with and what this does is countet-steer the bike in the opposite direction which will push it to the outside of the turn rather than continue on its path around the corner.

Try this instead - when you hang off, lock your outside leg onto the bike (the cut-out on the tank, heel-plate) and don't cross up your body position (sit close to the tank and 'twist round' it), only half an arse cheek should be off the seat.  Relax your grip on the bars and don't apply pressure to the bars except to turn the bike in.

That way you're only holding onto the bike with 3/4 of your backside and your outside leg, rather than applying needless input to the bars while cranked over.
You only need to pull back on the inside bar when you roll-on the gas to bring the bike up out of the turn.

Or, you could be rolling off the throttle while leant over which will then increase the contact patch of the front tyre and 'push' the bike to the outside of the turn.

This is a double edged sword as not only will it make you run wide, but will reduce ground clearance (which will make your knee touch the ground easier) but more importantly deck-out part of the bike or worse. Oh, and overload the front tyre which could result in a front end washout.



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« Last Edit: July 08, 2010, 09:46:51 PM by EXJ10R »
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Re: knee down understeer
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2010, 09:47:32 PM »

cheers m8  :icon_thumright: ive looked through twist of the wrist 2 and watched the DVD but this was some time ago so it's all prob gone out the window prob worth a re-read i think
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Re: knee down understeer
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2010, 09:48:17 PM »

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Re: knee down understeer
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2010, 10:48:55 PM »

the knee down biz is hard to get the hang of, but once u find the right position for u it all becomes clear.
for ages i was tryin way to hard hanging off like a right knob but once u find ur own control over the bike u can knee down pretty much n e where it all kind of falls in to place and feels kinda right.
i found it much easier now to steer while in corners.............. you will be fine
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Re: knee down understeer
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2010, 11:52:55 PM »

i did a knee down school, and its all about body position n confidence, as EXJ10R said, you need barely any contact on the bars but use your leg  :tongue2:
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