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Re: nikko de resiction module
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2007, 11:22:04 AM »

waiting for his test run dave.. :icon_thumright:
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Re: nikko de resiction module
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2007, 05:17:34 PM »

plugs in before the pc3 so you can still use it and the pc3
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Re: nikko de resiction module
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2007, 06:29:45 PM »

I'll be very surprised if it alters the fuelling!!!!   There's only one fuel map in your bike (pcIII or not).

More than likely it modifys the ignition curve to allow more advance
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Re: nikko de resiction module
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2007, 07:30:38 PM »

from what ive heard that there is diffent fueling for each gear
thats why you have a gear sensor on the bike to tell it what gear its in
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Re: nikko de resiction module
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2007, 07:46:41 PM »

from what ive heard that there is diffent fueling for each gear
thats why you have a gear sensor on the bike to tell it what gear its in
So when it gets dynoed the operator has to give it full power runs in every gear? I don't think so.

The gear sensor (switched resistors) alter the ignition mapping
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Re: nikko de resiction module
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2007, 07:56:28 PM »

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It is installed in a few minutes in between the connectors and the ignition box (CDI)

Hmmm. CDI = Capacitive Discharge Ignition, but bikes haven't had CDI boxes for quite a while now. Most bikes these days have an Engine Control Unit that controls both the fuel injection mapping and the ignition as well as exup valves etc.  The description seems rather vague and i'd be reluctant to send them my cash.
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Re: nikko de resiction module
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2007, 08:03:29 PM »

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Re: nikko de resiction module
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2007, 08:18:35 PM »

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Re: nikko de resiction module
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2007, 07:36:53 AM »

this doesnt fool the bike into thnking in a gear it knows what gear you are in because there are two of the boxes to fit one goes on the gear module
it does 2nd and 3rd and doesnt touch 1st gear soif it fool the bike into thinking it in one gear how can it not do anything to 1st gear because the tre does all gears
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Re: nikko de resiction module
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2007, 11:14:55 AM »

this doesnt fool the bike into thnking in a gear it knows what gear you are in because there are two of the boxes to fit one goes on the gear module
it does 2nd and 3rd and doesnt touch 1st gear soif it fool the bike into thinking it in one gear how can it not do anything to 1st gear because the tre does all gears
It's a fudge and a rip-off, go and waste your money if you feel so inclined.
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Re: nikko de resiction module
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2007, 11:17:21 AM »

i did got it cheap and works so each to there own
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Re: nikko de resiction module
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2007, 09:13:54 PM »

i did got it cheap and works so each to there own

Greetings and what a way to start a first post.

I have been using the Nikko Racing G-Pack unit on my 04 ZX-10R for over 3 years with no problems. It works in tandum with the PC3, advancing your ignition timing in the 2nd and 3rd gears for smoother throttle response. You will feel it especially at deceleration in these gears. It costed me quite a bit when i bought it back then in 2004 (250 euros!) as the kit consisted of 2 pieces but I was advised by some local racers that this was the quickest and cheapest way of removing electronic factory restrictions. The bike goes over the magical 299km/h and has been clocked by a mate's 00 12R to max out at the top speed of 305km/h (on his speedo).

Recently, I have had the opportunity to acquire a used 04 10R KIT ECU for a fraction of its original price. I removed the G-Pack in preparation for the installation of the KIT ECU and i couldn't believe how jerky the bike felt in the lower gears when i had the chance to ride it afterwards.  Spoiled by the smooth on/off in my lower gears with the G-Pack, I almost though something was wrong with the bike.

I believe the justification of the G-Pack's cost to be that of its ability to actually advance your ignition in the 2nd and 3rd gears without the need of either the KIT adjustable ECU, dynojet ignition module or any other form of ignition tempering. Removal of the G-Pack resulted in an overly RICH fuel mixture in my lower gear mapping and obviously, installation of the G-Pack will be the direct oppersite. Here's when a PC3 really comes in useful to tune up that boost (or drop if you're removing the G-Pack) in fuel mixture.

Make no mistake, the G-Pack does work. Throughout the months, I have seen many bike owners avoiding the G-Pack due to its high cost (9 times of a TRE!). This is understandable as 250 Euros isn't what most people would spend on 2 little black boxes. However, these owners often or not, try out the TRE (which tricks the bike into a 5th gear ignition/fuel mapping in all gears), become impressed with what the TRE does to their vehicles (smooth throttle on/off), and come back labelling the G-Pack as an overpriced rip off. That IMHO isn't right. Both products are effective and work just like they advertise they would. It's really up to what you want for the bike.

G-Pack: Retains stock ignition/fuel mapping for 1st, 4th, 5th and 6th gears. Ignition advance in 2nd and 3rd gears resulting in smoother throttle in those gears. Removal of top speed limiter via speed sensor tempering.

TRE: 5th gear ignition/fuel mapping for all gears. Does not retain stock ignition/fuel mapping and as a result, smoother throttle utilizing 5th gear ignition/fuel mapping will be experienced.

In a nutshell, the G-Pack removes all factory restrictions and retains the stock fuel/ignition settings that define your bike's power delivery.
The TRE removes all factory restrictions too but you lose the power delivery KHI intended the bike to have simply because the bike runs the 5th gear ignition/fuel map on any given gear.
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Re: nikko de resiction module
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2007, 09:15:48 PM »

nice one good info ...... now pop along to the newbie section to intro yourself..... forum ettiquette and all that  :icon_thumleft:


ps welcome to here  :icon_thumleft: :occasion14:
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Re: nikko de resiction module
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2007, 07:24:22 AM »

 :iamwithstupid:

What he says  :occasion14:

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