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[harryt]

rossi won on bridgestones last year so he cannot use that excuse anymore.

don't think you will ever see rossi and stoner on the same bike, rossi had the wall put up between him and lorenzo because he was a real threat,imagine stoner in there,rossi would never agree to that.
i think rossi will have to ride even harder than last year if he's to beat stoner.

[r1ninja]

personally i'd like to see  rossi go to ducati and see what happens then

Me too, and he had the option when his contract was up for renewal in 2007.  Ducati said they'd have him , Rossi wasn't happy with  the  Yamaha bike but decided to stay, rightly as it turned out because Yamaha built the best buike in 2008 and have the best bike now.  Rossi would of been on a hiding to nothing going to Ducati. What good would it done his reputation if he couldn't tame the duke or beat Stoner? Also i doubt Burgess would have gone with him ?

[jamma10566]

I thought Ducati said they would NOT have Rossi because it would leave them in a no win situation because everyone would say it was the rider winning and not the bike. The only reason the Yamaha is such a good bike now is because of the input from Burgess and Rossi. Stoner will never be as good as Rossi because when the racing gets tough like Laguna last year, he bottles it and whinges afterwards. Gibernau was a far more worthy adversary and Rossi broke him in the end!

[harryt]

you are quite right,stoner didn't do himself any favours at laguna last year when he was quite clearly the fastest but was beaten by a better racer using blocking tactics and not letting stoner get into a rythm(rossis best ever race).he would have learnt a lesson from that and i think it will be diferent the next time.
gibernua was bullied and broke by rossi several times on last lap passes,and i just don't think he will get away with it anymore with either stoner, lorenzo or the other young guns.
Clearly stoners record speaks for itself and gibernau was and never will be in the same league as stoner.i can only remember gibernau beating rossi once fair and square.

for rossi to beat stoner last year was monumental as stoner was clearly quicker on the majority of tracks,and i don't think rossi will be able to do it again.he must go with him on the first lap and not let him open a gap to have any chance

if stoner doesn't crash and hurt himself like last year,i think stoner will be the clear winner.

just hope that the racing is better than the first gp, apart from the midget getting skuttled it was soooooo boring.

 

[fido]

personally i'd like to see  rossi go to ducati and see what happens then

Me too, and he had the option when his contract was up for renewal in 2007.  Ducati said they'd have him , Rossi wasn't happy with  the  Yamaha bike but decided to stay, rightly as it turned out because Yamaha built the best buike in 2008 and have the best bike now.  Rossi would of been on a hiding to nothing going to Ducati. What good would it done his reputation if he couldn't tame the duke or beat Stoner? Also i doubt Burgess would have gone with him ?

Wouldnt say that Yamaha have the best bike but the best all round team.  Burgess is the best crew chief in the business and Rossi the best rider. As a team they would bring almost any bike up to standard and make it look one of the best.

 I rekon Burgess would have gone to Ducati with Rossi.

 I know it will never happen but am sure if they went to Kawasaki thay would get the bike winning!!

[gr8t1]

the trick is for a team and manufacturer to listen to rossi and burgees and apply there knowledge and understanding of whats wrong and whats required.

its a known fact that ducati work the other way round and build the bike and say you ride it.... we'll engineer it!!!

[zx10manic]

The way i understood it from what Rossi said in his autobiography, was that he could of raced for Ducati and considered it, but decided, as gr8t1 just said, that Ducati were too much like Honda with the attitude of 'we build it, you ride it for us', which is one reason why Rossi left Honda in the first place. The biggest reason being why he stuck with Yamaha was because they were very open to Burgess/Rossi's ideas and would build the bike they wanted, and not what the factory wanted.

Maybe I'm biased because I'm a Rossi fan but his record speaks for itself. 125/250/500/990/800. Hes tamed them all so far so i personally reckon if he jumped on the duke he'd have no problems winning on it.

[fido]

 

[jamma10566]

 

[r1ninja]

I thought Ducati said they would NOT have Rossi because it would leave them in a no win situation because everyone would say it was the rider winning and not the bike.

No they have never said that

The only reason the Yamaha is such a good bike now is because of the input from Burgess and Rossi.

If they want to take all the credit for the good bikes then they must also be to blame for the bike being poor in 2006 and 2007 , you can't have it both ways

Stoner will never be as good as Rossi because when the racing gets tough like Laguna last year, he bottles it and whinges afterwards. Gibernau was a far more worthy adversary and Rossi broke him in the end!

Haha i thought you were intelligent, obviously i was wrong. How many Gp's did Gibbers win? Watch the Qatar race of 2007 and the Catalunya gp the same year. Both times he held off a determined Rossi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAGp8YRhX_g

 Stoner is starting to make Rossi's greatest of all time tag look a bit unrealistic now

[fido]

2 races out of how many in total?

Not a very good record

[r1ninja]

2 races out of how many in total?

Not a very good record

Well, where they went proper "head to head" that puts him 2 -1 up, and if you compare their 800cc records then Stoner is quite a way ahead in victories

[WAZHALO31]

you can't compare there 800cc records to the greatest rider of all time which is rossi of course! he is the greatest rider of my era thats for sure, stoner is good but not in Rossi's league. Stoner don't like it when the tough gets going as he proved in laguna last year bit of fairing bashing and he throws his toys out the pram! Proper pussy      

[r1ninja]

you can't compare there 800cc records to the greatest rider of all time which is rossi of course! he is the greatest rider of my era thats for sure, stoner is good but not in Rossi's league. Stoner don't like it when the tough gets going as he proved in laguna last year bit of fairing bashing and he throws his toys out the pram! Proper pussy      

Yes i can, that's where most of their races have been done. If it makes your hero look second best then too bad. Rossi finally has some real competition after racing gp journeymen for years.

[r1ninja]

It was a shite race really its a ducati biased track really with that long straight and Ducati's top end no one else can match there bike its blooming rapid.

Dani Pedrosa took his Repsol Honda to a new record of 338.6km/h (210.41mph) in this year's qualifying session (now without qualifying tyres).

Mika Kallio's Pramac Ducati was second in qualifying with 338.0km/h, followed by Ducati Marlboro's Casey Stoner (337.2km/h) and Jorge Lorenzo's Yamaha (337.0km/h). Team-mate Valentino Rossi was ranked fifth with 334.2km/h.